[DMCForum] Re: Smoking..

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry to tell you this, but I'm a non-smoker, I like clean air, and I've no 
problem with anyone who does happen to smoke around me. With the 
exception of when I'm eating at a table, smoking doesn't bother me. And all 
smokers that I've encountered, actaully show me the courtesy of waiting until 
I finish, untill they light up. Of course if I dine with non-smokers, this is a moot 
point anyways, since restaurants do afterall provide non-smoking sections...

Of course there is the exception of those cheap-ass-$1.99 cigars that idiots 
pickup at the gas stations out here. Nasty, greenleaf, rancid tobacco.

The no smoking laws that NYC has passed for public restaurants, bars, and 
clubs is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever seen. It's been proven over in 
Ireland that when smokers go outside to to light up, their non-smoking friends 
will naturally go outside to follow them. So what was the point anyway? Clubs 
and bars do have ventalation, so it's not like anyone is gonna suffocate. And 
besides that, here in Las Vegas where we do still allow people to have fun in 
be comfortably be themselves, we're reaping the benefits. Part of my job 
deals with the Hospitality Industry, and I can certainly tell you that tourism has 
most certainly been good. 40 million people passed thru the airport last year 
alone. And that doesn't count the people from California whom are our #1 
domestic tourist base. And New York keeps wondering why their tourist base 
keeps declining...

The point to all this is simple. It's ignorant to ban people from smoking. If you 
want to go strictly by the healt merits alone, I'd suggest looking at prohibition. 
We banned alcohol, and many people became binge drinkers because they 
could not consume alcohol in a leisurely manner. Only when they could find it, 
and they goruged themselves because of it's rarity, like some aboriginal 
peoples in certain parts of the world do with food. If the country keeps 
banning smoking, we are going to create a new generation of chain smokers. 
Many people will take up the habbit simply to anger non-smokers with such 
militant attitudes, and will smoke even more, because of the lack of 
opprotunities to do so.

As for the American Cancer Society, I'd like to buy them all a nice warm cup 
opf STFU. People know the risks, and they're willing to take them. So who do 
these people think that they are, let alone anyone else to tell smokers that 
they are not smart enough to judge for themselves what they want to do with 
their lives? No smoking in workplace offices and enviornments? Sure, not a 
problem, since the big concern here is to create an inclusive enviornment for 
workers. To reduce health risks? No, I'm no buying it. Lots of studies have 
been performed over the years, and some interesting results have been 
found, that people such as the ACS, ALA, and other organizations with 
anti-smoking, policital agendas have quietly declined to acknowlege.

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030913/fob3.asp

http://www.cdc.gov/genomics/hugenet/ejournal/OGGSmoke.htm

What's interesting about this, is the fact that even though smoking does 
cause DNA mutations, this enzyme can repair the damange to the DNA, thus 
preventing tumors in patients with high-levels of OGG. Even more interesting 
have been the genetic tests that are discovering that Europeans, and Native 
Americans who have longstanding cultures based around tobbaco 
consumption have already developed higher concentrations of this enzyme. 
Which exmplains why African Americans have the highest risk of all, when 
compared to Latios, and then followed by Caucasians. Taking all of these 
facts into account, only 15% of smokers nationwide will ever get lung cancer.

And worse yet are the political implications. People, wheather they are Stock 
Traders on Wall Street, or Manual Laborers all have people in their 
demographic whom smoke. So, if a puff or two helps them get through a day 
of stress, or a lifetime of hardship, then who cares? Let them enjoy 
themselves. And if you don't find the place where you're at to be offering a 
pleasant experience because you don't like to be around those who smoke, 
then leave. There are plenty of restaurants, and a few clubs that offer 
non-smoking areas that cater to folks just like yourself.

Hell, I have to put up with enough crap from enviornmentalists who want to 
keep vintage cars like my DeLorean off the road, because of "enviornmental 
concerns". So to anyone out there who smokes, know that I'm with you all 
they way on this one. Banning smoking IMO does encroach upon personal 
freedoms.

-Robert



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Flavia" <frvianna@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Exactly. One of the reasons why I love to go out in NYC, no smoking 
> in bars or clubs, I can have fun, breathe and not need to wash my 
> hair before oging to sleep at 3am! 
> Sorry, smokers, but smoking around non-smokers who like clean air and 
> be healthy is very annoying. I wish the whole country had the same 
> rules as NYC does. 
> I've been in contact with the American Cancer Society because they 
> are trying to promote to ban smoking at work places in NJ. I really 
> hope that works!
> 
> Flavia - NJ
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> > Ah, so instead the we will all be paying the cost
> > (through all of the liberal welfare programs) of
> > taking care of all of the people with lung cancer?
> > 
> > I am not an advocate of throwing parents in jail, but
> > even if this particular article is wrong there is a
> > clear link between smoke and the health of people. 
> > 
> > If you want to kill yourself, go ahead but don't make
> > me pay the bill.  If you want to kill your kids, then
> > maybe they should be taken away.
> > 
> > 
> > --- ryanpwright <yahoo1@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > What a great idea!! Let's pass a law. I say we force
> > > parents to stop
> > > smoking in their own homes. If they violate the law
> > > we confiscate
> > > their home, throw them in jail and put the kids in
> > > foster care. We
> > > must protect the children!  </sarcasm>
> > > 
> > > -Ryan
> > >
> > 
> > 
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