Wouldn't that suggest it is being used as a marketing tool? I have more respect for a company or product if they freely and willingly compare themselves to their "competing line", for lack of a better term, instead of merely stating they are the best without any supporting evidence. That is what causes things to develop and progress instead of stagnate. -----Original Message----- From: Walter Coe [mailto:Whalt@xxxx] Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:23 PM To: DMCForum Subject: [DMCForum] DML rejection of DMCForum Hey ya'll, Get a load of this. Dave Swingle just told me that he is refusing to allow my invitation to join DMCForum through on the DML. He called it countermarketing and likened it to seeing Burger King posters at McDonalds. Talk about an oppressive regime! Walt