RE: [DMCForum] New guy after some advice.

["Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Are you looking for a project car so you can get a D at a lower price?  If
so, that's false logic.  It just doesn't work that way.  In fact, it's
exactly the opposite.  I'll explain:
 
An important bit of wisdom was imparted to me early on in auto restoration:
"The difference between a $15,000 car and a $20,000 car is around $10,000."
It's strange but true. You can almost always get a better deal (when all
told) by buying a car that is great to begin with, than by fixing up one
that needs work.  I'm at around $18,000 into my project, and I'm not done
yet. The "Rule of 20" more than applies in my case (I'm at over $24k right
now and still not done). The "Rule of 20", if you are unfamiliar with it, is
Cost of DeLorean + Cost of parts and service = $20,000. That's about $5,000
more than a D in nice shape to begin with...

Now I, on the other hand, bought -my- car for the express purpose of fixing
it up. The process itself is what I'm interested in, more than the end
result. Will I have a $25,000 car if I spend $25,000 restoring it? Most
likely not. And to make financial matters worse, I will have invested a
couple-thousand- hours of work to boot.

Sometimes though, the journey is better than the destination. My '58
Plymouth has around $33,000 invested in it, but is still only a $17,000 car.
Where did the $16k go? It bought one heck of a lot of fun. A LOT of fun. And
it's worth it, IF you can afford it.

I see a lot of posts asking for a cheap D, by someone who will finance.
Originally, that's how I approached the original owner. I did pay him cash
though when the deal was struck - I wanted to start with a clean slate. I do
remember what it was like to be young, and dreaming of that perfect car.
You'll do nearly -anything- to get it. However, trust me on this one: DO NOT
BUY A COLLECTOR CAR UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO MAKE IT RUN AND KEEP IT
RUNNING. Now it doesn't have to be perfect at first, but at least drivable.
If you spend every cent buying a car that'll need tons more money before
it's streetable, you will stress yourself to death. You'll start to see the
car as an endless drain on your wallet, and it may be years before you ever
get to drive it. Besides, it's a race against time. The longer it sits, the
more it will need.  Eventually, you end up selling the car for less than you
layed out, and you'll be depressed as well as carless. This is what my
friends call the "Project Car Spiral". Avoid it.

I'm at a point in my life where I have most of the cash and time I need to
responsibly restore a car. If you don't have enough of both to begin with,
then you won't be happy when you get the car. It took me -12 years- to
finally get my '58 Plymouth. It took -15 years- to get my D. If it's worth
doing, it's worth waiting, and that advice works on a lot of levels.

Trust me. I've been there, and done that.  Even have the T-Shirt.  =)

-Dave Stragand
VIN #05927
 <http://www.projectvixen.com/> http://www.ProjectVixen.com


-----Original Message-----
From: lotusshaney [mailto:daniel.shane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 5:47 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DMCForum] New guy after some advice.


Hi all,

My name is Dan and I have just joined the DMCForum.  I'm based in the UK and
I'm 
currently looking for a De Lorean to purchase and import back here to
England

Now here comes the question.  Is it worth getting one that needs some work
or would I be 
better off just getting a fully restored one ???

I have a budget of around $12000 and I have been looking around the web for
any that are 
for sale.  I'm I aiming to low ???  I dont mind millage or the state of the
inside as long as 
the chassis and body are ok.

Now I dont mind hard work, I have been a Lotus nut for years and have
restored a few over 
the years so I know how frustrating there designs can be to work on, but how
hard is it to 
get things like body panels, trim etc ???

Many thanks and I hope you dont mind me asking these types of basic
questions.

Dan




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