RE: [DMCForum] Re: De-activating lower chambers
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RE: [DMCForum] Re: De-activating lower chambers



Bill, There is a difference between the Lambda version and Non Lambda for
the FD. I just had my builder build a Non Lambda version for a turbo
delorean out of a Volvo Turbo dist that has top port adjustments. There is
more to it on the inside than you think for fuel flow.
John



  -----Original Message-----
  From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:25 PM
  To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [DMCForum] Re: De-activating lower chambers


  "Rich, cross over to the Dark Side..."

  Unless somebody can explain otherwise, makes sense that removing
  frequency valve altogether will simply allow upper chambers to flex to
  maximum size (as if Lambda were metering rich) and stay there. Could
  then adjust CO2 screw accordingly.

  May be a metal plate in my R30 distributor too, just without any sort
  of access to its underside (lower chambers). Am not about to open the
  thing up to find out.

  Distributor on my new engine looks just like stock DeLo. Even has port
  for a frequency valve (you of course have the valve itself -- keep
  it).  If I can block the thing up well enough at home to run on the
  ground will experiment with de-emissioning and post results. Anybody
  have an old fuel pump I could borrow?

  Bill Robertson
  #5939

  >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
  > As usual, you saved my bacon Bill. Thanks.
  >
  > BTW, Walt brought up a valid question. Your fuel distro is different
  > than ours. Aside from missing ports for lambda equipt. you said that
  > you didn't think yours had "lower chambers".
  >
  > Basically, my question is can this still be done with that fuel
  > distro? Is yours a Renault or Volvo or what?
  >
  > I'm not looking to become a convert just yet, but since you've had
  > such success with your system, it's good info to have.
  >
  > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx>
wrote:
  >
  > > I maintain that de-emissioning a DeLo is as simple as:
  > > -Replacing dual banjo bolt on fuel distributor outlet with single
bolt
  > > (just like inlet) for tank return line only
  > > -Capping lower chambers off with an 8x1mm bolt to keep clean
  > > -Removing frequency valve (and hoses) and giving to some other
  poor soul
  > > -Removing Lambda ECU and giving to some other poor soul (which has
  > > side benefit of more room in driver side vault)
  > > -Replacing O2 sensor with a short thread bolt (to eliminate any
  > > protrusions into exhaust stream)
  > > -Gutting catalytic converter or replacing with a pipe (IF you can
  > > match 4 bolt flange)
  > > -Adjusting CO2 screw for constant upper chamber volume in fuel
  > distributor
  > > -Driving car for hundreds of thousands of miles with following
  benefits:
  > > --NOTHING screwing with fuel metering except your foot on the pedal
  > > (warm up regulator nothwithstanding)
  > > --Much cooler exhaust
  > > --Much less exhaust back pressure
  > > --No melted rear fascia
  > >
  > > Only disadvantage: standing outside State Department in the rain,
  > > getting yelled at by overzealous security guards WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE
  > > GUNS, waiting to give your old emission components to a poor soul
who
  > > refuses to give up on what should never have been put on car to
begin
  > > with.
  > >
  > > But we love you Rich and I'll do it again when I de-emission my
second
  > > DeLo.
  > >
  > > Bill Robertson
  > > #5939
  > >
  > > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxx> wrote:
  > > > > Of course he could always rip that crap off instead...
  > > >
  > > > Damn I'm glad you aren't a surgeon. :-)  Bill, I can only
  > > > imagine how much harder it would be to get the engine
  > > > running well if he "ripped that crap off".  Even if he
  > > > started with a factory original engine that is running well,
  > > > it would be a challenge to de-emission it AND still have it
  > > > run well afterwards.  Maybe we could get Martin to show his
  > > > procedure for changing to a Volvo metering head.
  > > >
  > > > Of course in the case with your car, you are dealing with an
  > > > earlier version of the engine that was not transplanted
  > > > completely by the previous owner.  I haven't seen a car with
  > > > a manual choke since my Dad's 1930 Model A Ford.
  > > >
  > > > Walt


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