[DMCForum] Copyright Issues (WAS: DMC Jewelry)

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

This was rejected from the DML...  What a surprise!!

Read the whole thing...  :)


--- Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:17:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Copyright Issues (WAS: DMC Jewelry)
> To: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Should I bother responding to your questions? Or
> once
> again, you will simply reject any of my posts.
> 
> Are you on the DMCH payroll?
> 
> 
> --- "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I and others on the list understand well that you
> > have a beef with DMC.
> > On the copyright issue, have you been elected the
> > spokesperson and
> > champion for all oppressed copyright seekers that
> > have been turned down
> > by DMC, or are you speaking on your own behalf? Do
> > you have specific
> > copyright permission requests outstanding with DMC
> > of is your message
> > based on a hypothetical possibility? On whose
> behalf
> > are you making the
> > address and what is your stake in this?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >                         Knut
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ____________________
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > James may be a friendly guy (to you), but he has
> yet
> > to address the information I have provided to the
> > list
> > a number of times.. that is, the ORIGINAL "DMC"
> logo
> > copyright is listed as "Dead" in the official
> > database. The modified logo that is owned by DMCH
> is
> > NOT the logo that anyone else would want to use. I
> > am
> > not a lawyer, but the silence on this matter could
> > be
> > considered failure to enforce their copyright.
> > (Copyright cannot be selectively enforced)
> > 
> > By claiming that a number of big-name companies
> have
> > made agreements with DMCH to use the logo just
> means
> > that either those companies did not know what they
> > were buying, or felt the fee DMCH demanded was
> less
> > costly than possible legal action. I wonder if
> this
> > is why the toys I saw at Universal Florida last
> week
> > did not have the DMC logo? What a shame, that all
> of
> > the kids (and adults) buying those toys are not
> > exposed to the logo. Lets face it, a good number
> > (maybe even Majority) or DeLorean owners were fist
> > exposed to the car on BTTF.
> > 
> > Every once in a while, I get a good idea.. And
> when
> > I
> > discuss it with anyone I know, they always say
> "Hey,
> > get a patent!". I always laugh, getting a patent
> on
> > anything is a matter of filling out some papers
> and
> > paying a fee. It means nothing until it has been
> > challenged, and successfully held up in court.
> THAT
> > can cost LOTS of money, and aggravation. Same goes
> > for Copyright.
> > 
> > It is likely that there is no product anyone can
> > make
> > using the DMC logo that would be worth the expense
> > and
> > effort to defend in court. Be it a part, jewelry,
> or
> > a tee shirt. Maybe some Lawyer type on the list
> will
> > do it themselves just for the principal of it.
> > 
> > FWIW, I think copyrights are VERY important. Many
> > companies spend LOTS of money to build a company
> and
> > reputation behind their logos. Frankly, this is
> not
> > the case with DMCH. They just happen to have the
> > name
> > "DeLorean Motor Company", they just happen to be
> the
> > owner of the majority of leftover assets from the
> > REAL
> > DMC, and they just happen to have a copyright
> > registered on a similar logo.. None of this makes
> > them the company that built our cars in the
> 80's....
> > 
> > And no one from DMCH has supplied any information
> > contrary to this.
> > 
> > ... And Rob asked "Isn't anybody brave on this
> > list?".
> > Yes Rob, there are a few but Not enough.
> > 
> > 
> > Marc
> > 
> > --- Louie Golden <louie@xxxx
> >
>
<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/post?postID=sybExfBnzVuUrva
> >
>
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> > >
> > wrote:
> > <SNIP>
> > 
> > > copies made. As you seem well aware of, there's
> > also
> > > the copyright issue. You can always CALL James
> and
> > > see what he has to say. He's actually a truly
> > > friendly guy, and has gone out of his way to
> help
> > me
> > > on many occasions. Maybe you can have these
> made,
> > > and sell them to DMC-Houston. You never know
> until
> > > you call. Good luck and keep us informed about
> > this
> > > project :-).
> > 
> > <SNIP>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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