Re: [DMCForum] Re: God Squad
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Re: [DMCForum] Re: God Squad
- From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:11:55 -0500
Please do not use the words "belief" and "faith" interchangeably. They
are not one and the same.
--Farrar
supremeadmiralsenn wrote:
> Andrew, I fail to see how my logic is circular. Bear with me:
>
> If God wans us to worship Him on faith alone, waiting until we have
> evidence to prove He is there defeats the purpose of faith.
>
> As I said, I believe (and have to some extent seen) that if you have
> faith in Him for the sake of having faith, then you will be shown
> evidence to confirm it.
>
> I think our primary difference is the definition of faith.
>
> You seem to think that you cannot believe in something without proof
> of it being there.
>
> However, the entire idea of believing on faith alone requires that you
> do that. If you really have an open mind, you can let go of the need
> for "proof" for a while.
>
> I don't have proof that you're there. For all I know, you are just a
> bunch of pre-written messages tailored to respond to my posts.
>
> However, I have faith that if I were to go to your house or wherever
> you claim to be right now, I would find you there.
>
> That is exactly the same as having faith in God. As you have said,
> there is a lot of circumstantial evidence but no conclusive evidence
> (at least none that people accept).
>
> In the same way, I have only circumstantial evidence that you exist,
> but nothing conclusive.
>
> Oh, and as for the whole "purpose of God" post, my point is the same:
> If He has to prove His existence, we can't believe on faith alone.
>
>
>
> Andrew, if you still see my logic as circular, replace the "A because
> B because A" argument with actual words, and I might begin to see your
> point.
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